The North Face TNF100 Philippines 2013 11/22/50/100K (Baguio)

ilang times po to kahirap kung ikukumpara sa pag-akyat sa mt. pulag via amba??
parang gusto ko sumali…

try nyo pareho ng malaman nyo.

tama si @yup, try mo to see the difference. try to beat the 30hrs limit for a 100k trail run and a mountain climbing with a 30kg backpack non-stop for 30hrs and see the difference…

hope to see you in this trail by this time… relax and enjoy the view of nature…

or if you’re into a more exciting one then try to join the JEST training offered by SAF, SR, SF or SWAG.

We can never compare Trail Runners to Mountain Climbers in terms of who is better than the other, or which one is more difficult.

TRAIL RUNNING IS NEVER MORE DIFFICULT THAN MOUNTAIN CLIMBING,
LIKEWISE, MOUNTAIN CLIMBING IS NEVER MORE DIFFICULT THAN TRAIL RUNNING!!!

They are 2 different sports, and they are both very difficult, if, you do not train for them properly. This is trail running we are talking about, and it is easy to say that a trail runner would simply outrun a mountain climber to reach the finish line first. But, given a mountain climber trains with enough time to be a good trail runner, then the odds of getting to the finish line first would be even, likewise if a trail runner includes in his /her training program the art of efficient mountain climbing. Mountain climbers’ are known for their ability to efficiently breath even on very high grounds, were the air is cold and thin, and they can do this carrying lots and lots of weights on their backs, while moving up and down the mountains! Elite Trail Ultra Marathoners like Scott Jurek, Kilian Jornet, Tony Krupicka, and Marshall Ulrich were first mountaineers before they become Ultra’s Titans! It will be an advantage to you MYKROSHEY, if you are already an experienced mountain climber, then you would train to be an ultra runner! You already have that unique strength and endurance, specially when going uphills and downhills. You just have to train yourself how to unleash those power more efficiently while running! Just train properly. Trainings for trail running, trekking, mountain climbing, and cross-training all goes hand in hand to achieve ones optimum physique when tackling different types of terrain. I hope this comment would help you MYKROSHEY.

As for me, I’m still making a decision to go 100km, from my 50km last year, but it still depends on my fitness a month before the race. ‘Listen’ to your body, but train also your body to ‘listen’ to you.

Good luck on your training, and I know that you are very capable to do ultras in the future! 🙂

Pag may shuttle service ito sasali ako sa 22k.

I agree with BarefootTrail_RRBSI.

“Altitude has attitude.” Listen to your body, sometimes mentally you want to finish the race but physically incapable. For me, ultra-marathon is for the elite runners. I mean “elite,” those who can run for 50 or more than 100km distance in a standard time. “hindi puede yung itry ko lang or naligaw lang”. You need a serious training before the race.

From 22km last year, I will join in the 50km category. “It was tough, punishing, and tiring but still rewarding.”

ILL JOIN THIS RUN FOR MY 2ND ULTRA RUNNING GO FOR THE TNF 100 HORRAHHH STABILITY UNDER PRESSURE DO IT LONGERRRRRRR….

may cut off b to…san ano ruta

My take on Mountaineering VS Trail running.

For mykroshey and beginners

First, let’s put it in proportion and discus several details. Mountaineering and Trail-running in the Philippines in general (doable for most people). Since nandito naman lahat tayo. 🙂

Mt. Guiting-Guiting, Mt. Halcon and Mt. Mantalingajan, with an average climb difficulty 9/9, Trail Class 5. And Carstensz Pyramid are also part of Mountaineering

Now, can we say Trail-running of 100KM is more difficult than climbing these mountains? That’s Mountaineering too…

Mountaineering is not just climbing Mt.Maculot, Gulogod Baboy and Batulao… And Trail-running is not just doing a 100km.

That’s why we need to be particular and put things in proportion before we compare and conclude.

In general most conducted Trail-Runs here are within 10K to 25K in distance wherein most beginners and recreational runners are participating. I suppose no beginner would dare to run an ultra-Marathon (Trail) right-away. As-well as doing a major climb like Guiting-guting…

Thus it would be more clear/visual, appropriate to compare a 25Km Trail running to minor/average Mountaineering. Since it’s also not usual to see a 50Km to 100Km trail from base to summit na bundok sa Pilipinas.

Let’s define hirap/difficulty in relation to these activities. – It’s the sum of physical, mental, emotional stress that we’re experiencing during, after and even before doing these activities.

I would say Mas-mahirap ang Mountaineering as to Trail Running. (My opinion) Pero parehas mahirap 🙂

Generally in terms of:

1.Kind of trail – Base to summit, more traversing, unmarked trails.
2.Security – No marshals/medics, encounter with armed people is possible. Getting lost frequently.
3.Preparation /logistics – No water stations, tedious preparations, transporting with heavy loads. Pitching your tent, cooking your food under a thunderstorm for several times. Break camp.
4.Loads – Traversing and descending river-crossing while carrying parts of your house room, kitchen and restroom. Repeat…

Most conducted trail runs in our country do not include reaching the summit of a mountain, minimal traversing is required, and trails are already established and marked combination of road and trails. These are usually categorized as “Fun Climb” Difficulty 3/9, Trail Class 2-3 in mountaineering.

Example:

Merrell Adventure Run 21k category in Timberland Heights Trail Class Trail Class 2-3 in my perspective (considered as one of the tough trail runs of 2012). Average time for finishers is 3 hours combination of running and walking (I witnessed more walking). -Trail Running

Same trail, but take-away the markings, water stations, marshals and medics. Then carry a mountaineering bag half or a 3rd of your weight in (mountaineer phase). –Mountaineering

San ka mas mahihirapan?

How about;

Traversing Mt. Arayat. Difficulty 5/9, Trail class 1-4 (10kms) popular destination for climbers (Not the hardest) No markings, marshal medics barely visible trails, 70 to 80 degrees boulders that you have to traverse and giant mosquitoes. Trail length is way lesser than 21km. I don’t think a regular trail-runner can reach the summit in 3 hours not mention that he/she still needs to descend. A typical climb for mountaineers with heavy loads.

Time pressured.

Well, I can give it to trail-running but mountaineering is also time pressured since you’re following a Climb Itinerary. You cannot just walk slowly and relax as you want.

Running continuously… 5 to 30 hours?

Typical/ casual trail-runners do run in trail, continuously? I doubt, I’ve joined several trail runs most participants do approximately 70% walking 30% running and almost everyone walks at the end part. You can do your own comfortable phase and would still make it to the 4 to 5 hrs cutoff time for 21km.

But in mountaineering 90% walking with traversing 10% rest with tons of load.

Both are doable and enjoyable, just have some time to prepare, research and learn important details and gauge your limitation.

*I both love these activities; my opinions are based from my actual experiences.

My points are let’s not just concluded and even discourage someone from doing something without giving enough details and putting things in proportion.

-Just my two cents 🙂

Sa’n ba tayo pwede maka register nito?

pag mag register sabay bigay singlet?

ask q lng poh qng nangangailangan kau ng audio sa event poh ninyo,,willing poh kme mgbgay ng quotation for d event.tnx

Hi @emptybutfull. How does one go to Mt. Pico de Loro from Metro Manila? Thank you in advance.

joined 11k last year, will be running 22k this time…one at a time, baby steps 🙂

ok lang ba mag-camp-out dun?

how sad, we were not able to register for this run, closed na yung sa ROX Baguio… Pang-taper run sana after ng LUUM2. Anyway, for those looking for a place to stay and those who have no place to stay at in Baguio, we have a transient place good for 8 people. It’s a house with 2 rooms with 4 double-deck beds each. Mag-sharing na lang po since mga runners naman po tayo. If interested po, here’s our link: http://sulit.com.ph/6238773 and if your going to send a text message, please indicate re: TNF runner. Thanks much!!!

Hello Admin,

Pwede pa bang magregister? San po pwede magregister dito sa Manila at may shuttle ba from Manila to Baguio? Pwede na ba iclaim ang singlet after registration? Please reply asap thanks.